.. and let me add another point.

Think about how many paysite tours where the content is protected by age verification have images that are not damaging to a child.

Try selling porn without porn and you have no business.

Funny.... We have managed to do it....

Besides darin, can you really watch a child every moment of every day of his/her life until they turn 18? Of course not. It would be insane to try. As a parent to teach your child right from wrong and protect them the best you can. Parents rely on other adults to do the same when they cant - bus drivers, teachers, day care, principals, friends etc.

Ya know the old saying "it takes a village...."

twinkley

In my opinion, a good parent takes care of their kids and brings them up, nobody else can do that.. no village, no tv, no radio, no magazine, and no internet.

I have other issues about american parents (yes, I said american) because they don't have family values like other nationalitites. They like to just dump their kids off somewhere and goto work. Then they wonder why their kids turn to drugs, cling on to losers, and ultimately ruin their life.. their parents were not there for them during the most important part of their lives. Nuff said on that.

However, I think its BULLSHIT for ANY site to say they have managed to sell porn without damaging images to children.

.. take a moment and imagine you have a 10 year old daughter, would you let her look at the front page tours of those websites?

Think about it.

My point is you can't have your cake and eat it too...you can't own a TGP and expect to make money off surfers unless you intend on fucking around with the webmasters. And you can't expect to make money off the webmasters unless you fuck around with the surfers. Take my autosubmitter for example...my entire model is setup to not make money off the surfers (although there is some minor surfer advertising). My focus is providing great service to webmasters giving them the opportunity to make money off the surfers. There have been other autosubmitters that have tried to do both....and they haven't been successful.

It's the whole don't shit where you eat philosophy....

In every business, someone is getting fucked. Thats business. It's about fucking someone.

Whoever it may be, you are fucking someone. I agree with you tho, everyone has a different view of whos being fucked. But whos to blame for that?

In business when you feel you are getting fucked, you dont do business with that person/company.

In this business, people feel they get fucked, but they keep on doing it! Go figure! Then they complain, bitch and whine about how they dont make money...

They need to get their ass together and use their brain to make a real business model and not just jump on the bandwagon and bitch about free porn making it hard for them to make money.

They need to bitch and whine in the mirror and do something creative, productive, and SMART instead of being lemmings.

>>> Free porn is good for the industry, prove me wrong!!

You know I can indeed agree with myself!
If I said free porn was cool as a surfer, it just because a lot of surfers just look at free porn all over the net.
But I also agree that we need free porn to tease people, and then they wanna see more and they buy some porn.
That's my point!!!

So after all that you basically agree with me then. :D

Yup that's it!
As long as (mass)free porn don't hurt my checks it will be okay for me.

.. and how will you ever know when this has happened? How can you measure such a dynamic!

There are so many variables it's virtually impossible to pin point free porn as being a cause to lost revenue.

Free porn is good for the industry, prove me wrong damnit!

get lost with your proof dude!!!
Just the enough of free porn is good but too mcuh will kill our bizz!

So how much is too much? Refer to my reply to Stuart about the same subject.

There are 3,083,324,652 pages indexed by Google at this moment. There is too much information there. That doesnt stop me from using it to find what I'm looking for.

If your competitor has 1,000,000 pages in that index and you have 5. Whos gonna get the money from that surfer?

If you cannot convert TGP traffic , it may mean your site SUCKS !

that's how i see it, if u can't do something it could mean that your not that good at it....

plain & simple

HEH!

Yes it very well may!!

The problem is.. that I am outside the box... and there's a lot of porn outside of the box.

Let's say that someone goes to a tgp, and finds a gallery, and it has 3 recips on it. They click on one of those and find hundreds more galleries, each with more recips on them. They can surf all day long and collect 500 images of what they want, without ever paying 1 cent to a website.

If I can get over 400 pics of mardi gras, and parties, and drunk girls... why in the world would I ever sign up to CollegeFuckFest? Especially if I can get most of the vids of kazaa?

over 3 million sites on google, not all are porn. And no one uses it for porn anyway. All you need is one tgp site, and you may find your way to 50 more tgp sites... hundreds... each with hundreds of galleries.

I can fill up my harddrive in a day... I'd have to wait another year or two worth of updates on most porn sites.

Giving out free porn is great to get people to your door, and maybe even through.. but I ask you this... if I can get a free buffet of steak and lobster in the hallway.... I'd be full before I ever got in the door of the restaurant.

In theory, a surfer could surf the entire internet by following every single link on every single page they find. But do they?

NO.

It takes time to do what you just explained, and when the surfer is horny and wants a fix, wasting time clicking clicking clicking clicking trying to find what tickles their fancy is NOT what they want to do.

People are willing to pay to get the good stuff NOW and not have to deal with being shifted around from site to site trying to find what they are looking for.

Remember, people are LOOKING for something that they like. They don't just casually follow links for hours and hours looking at 'FREE PORN'. The free is the gimmick to catch that surfer and give them what they want.. NOW, not two hours later.

People have lives, they have work, they have to sleep, they have time alone when their wife is upstairs or out shopping, they dont have time to mess around with thousands of recip links going from one tgp to another.

They want their FIX and its every adult webmasters job to present that to the surfer using some type of free content to get them hot and ready to buy NOW.

The google example was an example.. to show you that there is plenty of information but nobody is going to go through 3 billion (Yes, not million but BILLION) pages indexed. They use the tools presented to them to find what they want FAST.

If you could setup an account and pay 5 cents for what you were looking for instantly using Google, would you not do that? .. or would you rather surf 3 billion results for hours clicking back and forth looking for what you want or NEED at the MOMENT?

Free porn is good for this industry! Prove me wrong!

That doesn't make any sense... i just told you, if I want party girls, I can find 100's of pics, right now.... in 5 minutes.

if I wanted to rip off Evil Chris and check out the CFF feeds, I could... have you searched Kazaa lately?

I can get a fix on any niche I want, in 10 minutes or less.... guaranteed... for free.

So you are saying the evil is the P2P engines?

the number 1 reason free porn is bad ...

Moneys generated from free porn .. fund DARIN !

hee hee

what he said ;)

.. and I'll repeat myself. Don't support those sites. If you support them, they get away with what you are bitching about.

Simple concept!

So basically everyone on this board agrees with me that:

FREE PORN IS GOOD FOR THIS INDUSTRY!

Amazing, where are all the supporters of protected contet, no hardcore, rah rah rah.

Where are you? Have some balls and post if you think you are right.

:D

I already did....

but

Im not gonna sit here argueing uselessly with you, when you refuse to see reason due to the fact that your a thread whore hahahahaha

twinkley

lol!

Okay, you're lucky I like you! :D

NEXT!

Everyone thinks free porn is good then. Amazing. NOBODY has a good argument here?

Everyone who posted already GAVE UP? :D

because no one can prove you wrong. some good points made, but ultimately I am in total agreement with you. use your head.

free porn is good! ;)

Have I told you how fucking sexy you are today? :D

Hey Stuart,

EAT THIS MAN! :badcomp:

Will you be my Valentine?? :rolleyes:



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