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Old 06-10-2005, 01:00 PM   #1
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I think the introduction of a .xxx is bad for many reasons. It puts the online adult industry in a corner of sorts, and in the future, .com adult gurus may even be forced to give up their domains if they contain adult content. Nobody knows what might happen in that respect. One thing is for sure though... the introduction of .xxx means further segregation and isolation of the adult business online. That target on your website just got 100% easier to scrutinize.

On the other hand, it levels the playing field for everyone once again in many ways and forces everyone to play by the book. I for one will be following the implication of .xxx *very* closely, and (literally) the moment it opens up, I'll probably spend so much money on domains that I'll be in the doghouse with my wife for weeks.

Like everyone else, my hopes are high. I'm thinking that search engines with parental filters turned off will likely default to .xxx domains in preference over .com that contain adult content. Meta tags may make a big comeback for a little while as a result of this, and its transition period (which will be long).
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:23 PM   #2
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Not a good thing at all. Putting everyone on the same domain is setting us up for some or all of the following:

-higher domain rates-duh, you think
-higher tax rates or a tax on everything purchased from those domains alone
-easier MONITORING which will lead to more restrictions similiar to 2257

Then you get into the copyright issue. How pissed would you guys be if I registered and owned littleapril.xxx or imagine lensman with gfy.xxx or gofuckyourself.xxx.

Again, who's gonna benefit from this? The same group of people who are benefitting from the 2257 issue. The lawyers. (see avatar)
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:55 PM   #3
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question...lets say this all goes down like is supposed to and I end up having to reg mommabig.xxx I realize they cant tell me I cant own mommabig.com but since all Adult would have to be on XXX they can tell me I cant put porn there. What I am wondering is will I be able to redirect mommabig.com to mommabig.xxx?
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I am all for the xxx to be added, I think it would get "Big brother" off of the Adult Industries back, not to mention that I think it would also be a good thing to keep minors off the site or at least allow the parents to identify an adult site easier.
Oh wait...one more thing you could block xxx from being searched so yeah I am all for it.
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I fully think it's crap, domains that have been built up for years with SE relevence etc will be lost with devistating consequences. How can they legistate such a thing..?
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I am all for the xxx to be added, I think it would get "Big brother" off of the Adult Industries back, not to mention that I think it would also be a good thing to keep minors off the site or at least allow the parents to identify an adult site easier.
Oh wait...one more thing you could block xxx from being searched so yeah I am all for it.
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C'mon Darren, you don't actually believe that do you?

I think if anything, it would make it easier for them to keep an eye on us and further regulate our industry and INCREASE Big Brothers attentiveness to our industry.

Some government jobs would be used specifically to troll .xxx sites and messageboards that go with it (not that they're not doing it now).

When someone posts on a messageboard, something along the lines of, "Well, at least they're not making us do this...., because that would TOTALLY fuck us over and make our workload unbearable," what do you think the next regulation would be?

Who's gonna care what it costs us to comply, or if they tax us more? Noone, because it's the redlight district of the internet and they make BILLIONS of dollars each year, so they can afford it and probably SHOULD be paying more.

There are methods out there right now to keep children away from porn. First and foremost as I see it is a little thing called PARENTING. My kids have a computer set up but when they go online they're supervised. Imagine that. Protections are built into every browser now, so there should be no excuse UNLESS the parent is computer illiterate.

One thing I forgot to mention in my post, is if it remains OPTIONAL, it's not AS big a deal. I don't believe for one minute though, that once they become a mainstay, .xxx will be an option. They'll soon be made mandatory and those that have branded their .coms or whatever, will soon have something else to conform to-not to mention the lawsuits involved in getting that .xxx domain. Think it won't happen? I don't know about where you live, but where I live, an adult movie store has to be a certain distance away from schools or child related businesses.

Then we have the isp's potentially blocking all .xxx domains (that probably wouldn't happen). BUT, I see THIS law coming out in the future. ISP'S will be responsible for monitoring it's clients usage of .xxx domains, and passing that information on to the authorities, who will then search for any illegal content and then charge the SURFER for accessing illegal material on the net.

That would never happen because of privacy issues you say? Tell that to the models who are about to have their ID's handed out to thousands of webmasters and people POSING as webmasters. ALL of that under the "Guise" of protecting our children. Privacy concerns in our industry are of NO concern to the U.S. government. They've made that perfectly clear already.

Something I saw posted the other day that made me furious.

Suppose an 18 year old model poses naked a few times and her ID is handed out to the wrong person. Now, the government has stated that it's a risk it's willing to take, again to "Protect our children." This person now shows up at her OLD address, where she used to live with her parents, her 13 year old brother and 16 year old sister. Now THEY'RE in danger and they have done absolutely NOTHING. They're probably not even aware that their daughter/sibling has posed naked, and all of a sudden the 16 year old SISTER has a stalker. Is she a "Child"? Yes. Has she posed naked? No. What's the government's thoughts on that?

That scenario alone should be enough to get an injuction against 2257, but I'm not a lawyer or a politician. I'm a REASONABLE person.
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I fully think it's crap, domains that have been built up for years with SE relevence etc will be lost with devistating consequences. How can they legistate such a thing..?
SE relevance is fickle. Google's "Florida" change showed everyone that. My opinion is that the SEs are going to have to play along with this one, and I am sure it will affect the way searching is conducted on the net.
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question...lets say this all goes down like is supposed to and I end up having to reg mommabig.xxx I realize they cant tell me I cant own mommabig.com but since all Adult would have to be on XXX they can tell me I cant put porn there. What I am wondering is will I be able to redirect mommabig.com to mommabig.xxx?

no one have any idea on my question?
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As it stands RIGHT NOW? Sure, it's optional. You can do that if you want but you don't even have to move the .com.

The problem comes when it becomes MANDATORY.
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As it stands RIGHT NOW? Sure, it's optional. You can do that if you want but you don't even have to move the .com.

The problem comes when it becomes MANDATORY.
I agree with this.

It can be good as a complement. Anyone wants to use it, fine.
IŽll be buying tons and tons of them for SEŽs.

But for moving entire businesses over to the .xxx domains? no...
I generally dont like forcing ppl or businesses into a corner.

the .xxx sounds like trying to make an Internet red light district. The FILTHY .TLD . Makes me think of some cities, communities in diffirent countries around the world where XXX businesses have had their legal rights to do business taken from them and been chased out of their existing stores, cities, communities.

As long as there is nothing illegal on a site, it can be on pretty much any .tld.

I always like the freedom of internet. Its free for anyone to use.
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this .xxx domain is just discriminating and segregating adult webmasters from the rest.
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Old 06-14-2005, 03:09 PM   #12
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I am not for the .xxx in anyway shape or form. We are not protecting the children by doing this. Kids can still have access to violence and other "adult only" types of material from the other TLD's.

Why would anyone look for a bandaid fix and not try to find a solution that would solve the probelm. Let's face it, the DOJ does not care about protecting children as much as they care about their own right wing agenda's.

Meanwhile I bet half of the DOJ surf's porn on a regular basis. Hypocrits!!!
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