The future of Painful Ecstasy - X Nations
      
      
Go Back   X Nations > X Nations > General Webmaster Business and Discussions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-13-2007, 09:45 PM   #1
painful
painful should edit this
Ecstasy
 
painful's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 211
xBucks: 9,177
Send a message via Yahoo to painful
Cool The future of Painful Ecstasy

Hey everyone, good news! Yesterday, my chief got my orders out of the country cancelled so I get to stay! YEAH!

I have decided to keep my site, although I still cannot make money. I don't know what it is. What are the advantages of having a freesite, and does an affiliate site need to be a freesite? I have a few people in mind for affiliates, so I was kinda leaning that way. Is it difficult to change a paysite to a freesite?

Pros and Cons on this please. Thanks

-Brett
__________________
The road to success is different for everyone. For me, it's in desperate need of repair.

www.dominateyou.com
painful is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2007, 10:43 PM   #2
ScreaM
ScreaM is FB's sex slave
Mama's Boy
 
ScreaM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Whore World
Posts: 580
xBucks: 3,242
Default

A freesite is totally different from a paysite.

This would be a freesite : http://www.wildclips.org/gorgeous-hot-girls/hot-ladys/
ScreaM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2007, 12:48 PM   #3
Panky
Panky is the Queen of Mean
Moderator
 
Panky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Montréal
Posts: 4,780
xBucks: 40,483
Send a message via ICQ to Panky Send a message via AIM to Panky Send a message via Yahoo to Panky
Default

For starters, your website loads slow and I'm on a high speed connection.

What type of free site were you thinking of creating? Why not just offer a few free pics, a couple of teaser trailers and keep it a paysite?

Have you considered plugging your site into an AVS system and then marketing the site just like you would a regular paysite?

What type of content does the site feature? (Exclusive, non-exclusive, semi-exclusive, your own custom content? )
Panky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2007, 01:58 AM   #4
painful
painful should edit this
Ecstasy
 
painful's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 211
xBucks: 9,177
Send a message via Yahoo to painful
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Panky View Post
For starters, your website loads slow and I'm on a high speed connection.

What type of free site were you thinking of creating? Why not just offer a few free pics, a couple of teaser trailers and keep it a paysite?

Have you considered plugging your site into an AVS system and then marketing the site just like you would a regular paysite?

What type of content does the site feature? (Exclusive, non-exclusive, semi-exclusive, your own custom content? )
Right now it's non-exclusive. As far as loading, I don't know why it loads slow, it is set up on a .PHP server, so maybe their server is just overloaded with crap. I am starting to think I should find new avenues for the site, maybe a new host, but I don't know how to switch. My site was built by Adult Design out of Australia, but I am thinking of just dumping them and setting up my own server connected directly through my provider, Cox Communications. I have an IT guy that's pretty smart about that, I'm not.

My background is art mainly, so I have been kicking around the idea of creating a whole new site, but I am not sure about a new niche, or just really go crazy with my current one.

What does it mean to "plug in" to an AVS site? Remember, I am not up to date on this stuff, but I need a new race bike, so I need more money.

I am willing to do anything, so to speak, to get some customers. My membership fees aren't much, so I am not sure what it could be.

How much content is "enough" content on a site as well? Do you have 50 galleries and a bunch of video, or streaming shit, or more than that? I have removed a lot of my content lately, I didn't think it fit what I was trying to do, so I am interested in other things. I am gonna go out and get an HD video camera and start filming wierd fetish shit, but that probably won't happen till at least March.

I just don't know where to go. I have decided to leave it as a paysite, so that part is figured out already. I mostly need to figure out how to switch my site to a new server that I can control and still keep my functionality. Any suggestions on hosting?
__________________
The road to success is different for everyone. For me, it's in desperate need of repair.

www.dominateyou.com
painful is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2007, 06:57 PM   #5
Panky
Panky is the Queen of Mean
Moderator
 
Panky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Montréal
Posts: 4,780
xBucks: 40,483
Send a message via ICQ to Panky Send a message via AIM to Panky Send a message via Yahoo to Panky
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by painful View Post
What does it mean to "plug in" to an AVS site?
AVS = Age Verification Services
Examples:
Net Verifier
http://www.netverifier.com/
SexKey
http://www.sexkey.com/

CyberAge
http://aux.avsofchoice.com/wmtour/

Adult Bouncer
http://www.adultbouncer.com/

Free Net Pass
http://www.freenetpass.com/

Check out the resource sites. There's quite a few AVS programs out there.

Basically you build a site with a tour and a members' area. Then once approved by the AVS system, they include it into their network of sites. When someone buys a pass to the AVS system through your link, you receive credit for it. Not only does the member get access to your site, they get access to 1,000's of other porn sites in the system. Instead of having like a CCBill join page on your site, your join page would be the AVS join page.

You would treat your AVS site just like you would a traditional paysite. Market it the same way as you would your own site or a sponsors site. You then add regular updates and upsells within the members' area.

The AVS handles all the processing, customer support, and all that. All you do is update the site and market it.

Other people who already have a pass to the AVS system can have access to your site as well. They may purchase one of your upsells or they may click a link you include within your site.

You have to read the rules for each AVS. Each one has specific criteria they look for and require before accepting your site into the network. Some of them allow upsells in a members' area, others don't.
Panky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2007, 03:19 PM   #6
painful
painful should edit this
Ecstasy
 
painful's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 211
xBucks: 9,177
Send a message via Yahoo to painful
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Panky View Post
AVS = Age Verification Services
Examples:
Net Verifier
http://www.netverifier.com/
SexKey
http://www.sexkey.com/

CyberAge
http://aux.avsofchoice.com/wmtour/

Adult Bouncer
http://www.adultbouncer.com/

Free Net Pass
http://www.freenetpass.com/

Check out the resource sites. There's quite a few AVS programs out there.

Basically you build a site with a tour and a members' area. Then once approved by the AVS system, they include it into their network of sites. When someone buys a pass to the AVS system through your link, you receive credit for it. Not only does the member get access to your site, they get access to 1,000's of other porn sites in the system. Instead of having like a CCBill join page on your site, your join page would be the AVS join page.

You would treat your AVS site just like you would a traditional paysite. Market it the same way as you would your own site or a sponsors site. You then add regular updates and upsells within the members' area.

The AVS handles all the processing, customer support, and all that. All you do is update the site and market it.

Other people who already have a pass to the AVS system can have access to your site as well. They may purchase one of your upsells or they may click a link you include within your site.

You have to read the rules for each AVS. Each one has specific criteria they look for and require before accepting your site into the network. Some of them allow upsells in a members' area, others don't.
Hmmmm. I'll look into this more, thank you.
__________________
The road to success is different for everyone. For me, it's in desperate need of repair.

www.dominateyou.com
painful is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2007, 03:54 PM   #7
Slippery
Slippery is all wet!
Naughty Girl
 
Slippery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: In my house
Posts: 667
xBucks: 26,395
Default

I like these threads. I always learn something new from them.
__________________
I'm an angel
Slippery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2007, 05:13 PM   #8
Way3
Way3 is in Arizona!!!!
Way3.com
 
Way3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: United States
Posts: 449
xBucks: 4,026
Send a message via ICQ to Way3 Send a message via AIM to Way3 Send a message via Yahoo to Way3
Default

You have a nice site! And glad to hear you're going to keep in going! If you find yourself looking for a new host, we would be glad to have you at Way3.com. Feel free to contact us to best determine what your needs are! We'll also migrate your site for you!
__________________
FULLY Managed! FREE Control Panel! Tier-1 Bandwidth! FREE Month on ALL Shared Accounts!!
ICQ: 169-554-261
Email: info [at] way3 {dot} com
Way3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios
2013 - xnations.com
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:36 PM.
Skin by vBCore.com