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10-09-2004, 04:53 AM
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Bush hates Canada
He admited it tonight no the debates, Bush hates Canada and he thinks your drugs are dirty. Now run out and encourage American friends or family to vote Kerry/Edwards.
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10-09-2004, 05:16 AM
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Why would he say that LOL
If I would be American I would vote Edwards for sure ![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
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10-09-2004, 05:25 AM
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Bush needs to go for multiple reasons, including the fact that the current exchange rate is pathetic. The longer he's in office, the lower it keeps going.
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10-09-2004, 10:08 AM
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But the funny thing is just like Kerry said (or was it Kennedy that Bush was debating?)
Canada is buying those drugs from the US, they are then selling them back to us, and so the majority of those bad drugs are actually American drugs without the spike in price.
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10-09-2004, 10:13 AM
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But the funny thing is just like Kerry said (or was it Kennedy that Bush was debating?)
Canada is buying those drugs from the US, they are then selling them back to us, and so the majority of those bad drugs are actually American drugs without the spike in price.
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10-09-2004, 11:45 AM
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It's not even Bush so much as it's Ashcroft.
If any of us value our businesses Ashcroft needs to get out of there and the way to do that is vote Bush out.
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10-09-2004, 01:48 PM
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Someone told me that he saw a news release that Ashcroft is steping down, he doen't want a second term, we'll see!
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10-09-2004, 02:32 PM
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Bush needs to go for multiple reasons, including the fact that the current exchange rate is pathetic. The longer he's in office, the lower it keeps going.
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The definition of the word 'inflation' is NOT an increase of the consumer price index, it is the inflating of the monetary mass.
With Bush printing hundred of billions of dollars, there devaluation of the US dollar is ineluctable, since the "money" is backed by the presumption of productive ability of the country and not by tangible assets like gold.
Politics has nothing to do with the devaluation of money, for Politicians create nothing. The only power they have is to forbid, to menace and to destroy. Laws are inherently coercitive.
Politicians decide to print money, and devaluation ensue. Once the politician pulled the money trigger, nothing will stop that bullet.
- Cause and Effect, my dear. I drink wine all day, I must take a piss - to paraphrase my pal Merv.
You cannot print gold, and this is why all socialistic govt like that of the US and Canada and Europe hates it: it gives the govt no opportunity to pour huge amount of ressources in the pockets of friendly companies like Halliburton.
The effect of inflating the monetary mass is THEFT, in the form of stealing purchasing power from all those who were prudent enough to save in the form of cash (or other immediate liquidities like bonds).
They create a system that favors the Cicada and punishes the Ant.
Ultimately, by the nature of Man and Money, this way of doing things will fail. But not before everyone undergoes greater trouble, unfortunately.
Expect much harder times ahead.
Expect a major crash in the real estate overblow bubble market.
Inflation punished people who were prudent. Deflation give to imprudent people what they deserve. At the present, the system is still going to punish the prudent and favor the imprudents.
Without a complete system collapse, there won't be a reversal.
The end of that road is complete dictature. Saddam Hussein was a good example. The US will become like Irak, eventually.
Foreign wars is the second last choice of despots to finance their caprices.
Both Democrats and Rebublicans are identical in ideology. It's just a matter of which tyran people prefer to be wielding the whip.
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10-09-2004, 03:40 PM
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That was a very interesting post Feynman! Thank you very much!
I don't know a lot of things about inflation, but I think I will began to do some research!
I understand when you say that this will punish prudent people... but what I don't get is what is the link between inflation and dictature? If prudent people are punished, government has more power? The government won't be punish as well? I mean... if their money worth less... it is not good for them?
Anyway... I hope you will understand me... sorry for my english ![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
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10-09-2004, 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by Vendzilla
Someone told me that he saw a news release that Ashcroft is steping down, he doen't want a second term, we'll see!
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That would be good for sure but I still think Bush should leave too. ![Smilie](images/smilies/smile.gif)
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10-09-2004, 07:40 PM
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That was a very interesting post Feynman! Thank you very much!
I don't know a lot of things about inflation, but I think I will began to do some research!
I understand when you say that this will punish prudent people... but what I don't get is what is the link between inflation and dictature? If prudent people are punished, government has more power? The government won't be punish as well? I mean... if their money worth less... it is not good for them?
Anyway... I hope you will understand me... sorry for my english
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By prudent people, I mean people who save money. Saving money is useless nowadays, because it devaluates so rapidly that it looses it's purchasing power.
People who tightened their belt, deferred pleasure in order to save, to not be a load for society see themselves defrauded, cleaned out by those who do not want to work or those who add no tangible value to the world but only manipulate and speculate on money.
These poeople will get angry. Dictatorship will happen when the Looters will want to have their luxury at the conspicusous expense of the producers. Witness USSR, Irak, and every other dictatures. Communism is the alledgedly great ideological principle that makes that possible, makes the bitter pill easier to swallow.
Make friend of Chinese people freshly arrived from china and ask them how it is to live there. They don't even have the right to go live in another city / town / village.
And of course, the ultimate turn-on of dictator is power....
Read history books, from Ancient China (who started the first non-treasury money system, i.e. fiat currency, i.e. money not backed by tangible assets). History repeats itself ineluctably because Human Nature never changes...
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10-10-2004, 03:17 AM
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If Canada can produce the drugs cheaper, then bring them into the US already. I'm confident Canada's health standards are up to it.
Time to break the strangle hold the drug companies have here in the US.
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10-10-2004, 03:43 AM
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If Canada can produce the drugs cheaper, then bring them into the US already. I'm confident Canada's health standards are up to it.
Time to break the strangle hold the drug companies have here in the US.
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thats what most rational thinking Americans want, but Bush is far from Rational
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10-10-2004, 05:00 AM
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The US drug companies do have way too much power. The FDA, along with insurance, are major freakin' scams.
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10-10-2004, 07:50 AM
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G'day Don, I am guessing your vote is with Kerry.
It will be interesting to see the outcome.
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Extremely fascinating to interpret that Feynman, I read it last night, but couldn’t reflect without stopping as of my condition.
So I enjoyed reading your paraphrase again today and thought about asking yourself.
Does the USDollar price set the trends of other currencies to follow the Dow Jones index?
I understand that you are not referring towards the stock market, but it interests myself to understand better.
I see on the news about lower oil prices, falling exports, drop in tourism and I presume these all add towards sharply reduced economic growth.
Which reminds myself about something that god once posted here about choosing a independent petrol gas station to full up instead of the well name companies.
Lastly I would like to ask Feynman please. What can the general public do?
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10-10-2004, 04:45 PM
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Lastly I would like to ask Feynman please. What can the general public do?
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Fuck-all. We are peons.
Buy gold. Don't expect it to appreciate, this is not an investment, it's a hedge protecting you from govt's inflating the currency.
Gold demand will grow, so it might in the long run turn into an investment. I dunno how the Oz currency fluctuates.
Do you wonder why they are making it difficult to own guns in all anglo-saxon countries ?
Again and again, it's been proven that any type of prohibition on guns or weapons increases the violence to which the population is subjected. But the politicos fear for their own butts when the world financial house of card will collapse.
One ounce of gold used to buy about 300 loafs of bread 2000 years before Christ. It still does, more or less.
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10-12-2004, 07:12 PM
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Feynman,
Is it also true to say that the US is supposed to print bearers bonds for each and every note/coin created? Didn't this change shortly after the second world war, whereas befoe WW2 any money printed was supposed to be balanced against gold bars held in places like Fort Knox.
Doesn't this give the ability to completely destabilise the economy, because whenever they need more money, they just print a huge amount, and print bearers bonds to go with them. The major issue comes when otehr countries try to collect on debts outstanding from the US government, and consequently they get only what the currency is worth. Given the need to constantly keep the US dollar high in order to recoup on their investments (holding US $ in trust) they are forced into trading in us goods, to support the uS economy. One of the issues for Bush when going to war with Iraq, is that the Iraqi govenerment was about to switch to trading oil in euros, instead of dollars as they had traditionally been doing.This would have destabilised the US economy and led to the inevitable breakdown and recession that is coming. It was merely postponed by Bush. His push in Afghanistan was so he could prop his governments failing economy by supplying the world with opium. Since Bush went into Afghanistan Opium production has increased 1500%. So much for clrearing up the regime...lol
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10-12-2004, 11:23 PM
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The system is quite fucked up.
Check in the legal dictionary (Black's 4th edition) the definition of the word Matrix... It is there.
What is the matrix? it is the birth registration documents. These are what guarantees the money, i.e. we are slaves...
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Re: Bush hates Canada
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He admited it tonight no the debates, Bush hates Canada and he thinks your drugs are dirty. Now run out and encourage American friends or family to vote Kerry/Edwards.
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Well I hate him too! So there! ![Stick Out Tongue](images/smilies/tongue.gif)
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10-13-2004, 09:44 AM
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I cant wait until tonight to see how bush can fuck up another kick at the cat. Im not sure how many foreign countries hes missed getting pissed at him, but the comment of drugs from Canada can kill you - is silly since our standards up here are the same if not better than USA.
With no apology forthcoming, Bush is still upset that Canada wouldnt join in on the war - hes a dictator, simple as that - but I fear is that he wont be going anywhere, that he will still be in power after reading on another board, someone who commented that if Israel losts its prime minister, will the King be assuming more responsibility - just like England, Spain and Canada.
Lovely, to some americans - Canada has a king. If they cant figure out 6th grade common sense, then how can they not figure out the truth about Bush?
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I whole heartedly agree BUSH IS like a DICTATOR
He craves elimination of the UN, why so a governing coucil of world leaders cannot tell him how the US will react to world issues, he all but blatantly went against UN recommendations regarding IRAQ
He cares nothingf really about Homeland issues like healthcare, poverty etc, as long as he is lining his pockets with oil money form a country we all know he invaded because they have immeasurable reserves!
4 more years of GWB means 4 more years of reasons to attack the US by Islamic Extremists! His foreign poloicies suck, he measures his policies based on WHAT? He spouts distain for countries who dont agree with his policies WHY? Because he is a MEGALOMANIAC!
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Re: Bush hates Canada
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He admited it tonight no the debates, Bush hates Canada and he thinks your drugs are dirty. Now run out and encourage American friends or family to vote Kerry/Edwards.
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Your analysis is correct Don, but we must note and add than most of the problems here have to do with the fact the Illuminati counter-forces created a very large thunderstorm the day he was inaugurated so that he couldn't get sworn in on George Washington's bible.
He did it, forced, later, but these kinds of spells don't work that way.
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anyone watch last nights debates, GWB fumbles on his own thoughts consistently!
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what I found is Bush Flipflopping now stating that he is looking for Canada to save his ass on the flu shots. Gee, I thought our medication had the possibility of killing those americans???
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Wow not even one strong pro-Republican opinion on the whole board?
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10-14-2004, 06:21 PM
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thats because most people here have some intelligence.
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The Pro Republican you've waited for
I'm gonna go from beginning to end with this.... to start things off I'd like to address the people who believe that 9/11 is Bush's fault... Clinton was in office when the World Trade Center was bomb and had a chance to prevent something like that from ever happening again, but he dismissed it so if it's any Americand fault it's Clintons he was probably to bust getting a blow job
Next thing to address is Job loss and inflation during his time in office... Job loss is from the world trade center being hit it lost millions of jobs and sorly decreased the value of money sending the USA into a recession, but Bush is the First US President to keep us from a depression he's even created 1.9 million new jobs
Another thing is people saying our economy is getting worse, but statistics say other wise America's worst misery rate was during the great depression at 20. something... Clintons Administrations highest was a 9.9 and lowest was about 6.3 and that's with the economic boom Windows and the internet brought to America by the way at the end of Clintons Admin. his misery rate was 7.4. Bush's highest misery rate was 8.8 that was after the recession and he managed to get it back to a 7.4 right were it started.
I would like to know why people don't support the US going into Iraq or blame Bush for being their in the first place. WHO CARES HOW OR WHY SADDAM WAS TAKEN FROM POWER! HE WAS A MURDERER WHO HAS KILLED MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE... besides it's not Bush to blame for attacking Iraq it's our CIA's fault they told bush there was evidence of WMD's and he acted on it. Don't you wish a Country would of done that to Germany before WW2 could take place? Saddam ignored Sanctions so did Germany under Hitler the Difference is America did a Pre-emtive strike before Saddam could of even tried to do what Hitler did.
Don't miss quote Bush by saying he said he hates Canada... why would he care about a Country with the Population on 1 American state enough to hate them he might disagree with some Canadian Policies but I promise you he doesn't hate you if anything you hate him and who cares if you do? it's not like Americans even thing about Canada until we find one of your stupid coins come out of the soda machine what's sad about it is their pennies not just pennies but canadian pennies that are worth less than our already unwanted American pennies is that some kind of sick Canadian Joke?
and by the way screw Kerry I can fully say without remorse that I hate the man nothing he says can be believed as a Senator he's absent half the time how could you trust him as presiden to show up? and He has disrespect our Vietnam Vets. by spitting in their faces. He has been quoted saying he has commited war crimes and that he hasn't witnessed others commiting them he just knows from stories he's been told and he has faked injuries to receive the purple hearts required for him to get released from the military and get rewards he never deserved
I have more to say but i'll stop there...
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