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Old 11-18-2003, 01:28 PM   #1
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Report on RCMP site backs decriminalizing sex trade in Canada

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Old 11-18-2003, 02:04 PM   #2
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I think they should.. we should have red light districts and regulated taxed brothels.
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thank god... I wont have to worry about the damn undercover broads any longer.... BTW that would also promote testing them frequently for STDs
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Old 11-18-2003, 02:51 PM   #4
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Hell Canada can't make up their minds whether or not to legalzie pot and same sex marrages...all talk, the government is one big disappointment after another
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Prostitution is very much tolerated here in Montreal. Escort agencies are permitted to operate with very little problems from the cops as long as the girls are of age and not selling drugs. I know a cop in the morality squad and he tells me the escort agencies keep the girls off the street and provide a driver who also acts as added security for the girl so they let them operate as long as no complaints come in regarding a specific agency.

If they could find a way to tax the hookers & drug dealers they would legalize it!
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Old 11-18-2003, 07:45 PM   #7
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if it cuts down on the pimpin maybe it'll reduce crime!
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Prostitution is very much tolerated here in Montreal. Escort agencies are permitted to operate with very little problems from the cops as long as the girls are of age and not selling drugs. I know a cop in the morality squad and he tells me the escort agencies keep the girls off the street and provide a driver who also acts as added security for the girl so they let them operate as long as no complaints come in regarding a specific agency.

If they could find a way to tax the hookers & drug dealers they would legalize it!
It is legal to operate escort agencies as long as you pay your taxes. What the girls do on their own time has nothing to do with the agency
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Hell Canada can't make up their minds whether or not to legalzie pot and same sex marrages...all talk, the government is one big disappointment after another
I halfway agree with you Sherie... but at least these issues are on the table! It's a step in the right direction.
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I halfway agree with you Sherie... but at least these issues are on the table! It's a step in the right direction.
totally agree with you Chris...legalization would make our streets so much safer for both men and women...

they could use all that tax $$ to help our deficit...
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It seems that many of you do not make the difference between de-criminalisation and legalisation.


What is not illegal is legal, but legalisation usually means "making it legal to commit the crime". Thus, they issue licenses, which are nothing more than a conditional waiver of prosecution that allows you to commit the crime without being prosecuted. Every single license that you have implies that you confessed and admitted the "crime" for which you are licensed to. Marriage, driving, you name it.


De-criminalisation means that the govt will simply mind it's own business and get the fuck out of what is happening between two consenting adults. Out, exit, laissez-faire.

In law, if somebody alledges that you commited a crime against themm say breathing air, and they trick you into signing for getting a license for it, then, you made yourself a criminal and delivered yourself unto legal bondage.

BTW, prostitution is not, never was a crime in Canada, as far as I know; it is sollicitation that is deemed to be a crime.


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Like Feynman said, prostitution is legal in Canada. Many activities surrounding this work are deemed criminal.

Communication - Any discussion in public about exchanging money for sexual services is illegal. Public palces include hotels, restaurants and cars etc... Montreal police are trying to crack down on the weekly papers and their back of the paper ads regarding this issue as well.

Procuring - Trying to influence someone to become a prostitute is illegal.

Exercising control, direction or influence - Basically your classic pimp (which according to my friends over at Stella -Montreal's female sex workers rights organization- is not very common).

Living off the avails of a prostitute - anyone who receives payment from the prosititutions income, which I have been told could even include your landlord.

Prostitutes under the age of 18 - illegal.
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Prostitution is very much tolerated here in Montreal. Escort agencies are permitted to operate with very little problems from the cops as long as the girls are of age and not selling drugs. I know a cop in the morality squad and he tells me the escort agencies keep the girls off the street and provide a driver who also acts as added security for the girl so they let them operate as long as no complaints come in regarding a specific agency.

If they could find a way to tax the hookers & drug dealers they would legalize it!
People keep saying that but every year, cops bust at least one escort agency in the Isaland of Montreal. Some of these agencies don't sell drug and don't hire minors.
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People keep saying that but every year, cops bust at least one escort agency in the Isaland of Montreal. Some of these agencies don't sell drug and don't hire minors.
Well, come to think of it: it makes them brownie point for curbing vice while making them fairly safe from violence. It is the epitome in the application of violence: apply violence to consenting individual under the BS argument of protecting them.

It is well knows that if you witness a crime commited, the response time is always very long, that they make SURE they arrive on the crime scene AFTER there is no danger.

The cops are not in the business of protecting the population but of MAINTAINING ORDER.

Thus, their job is not to prevent the initiation of violence but to initiate it against individuals who threatens the order. Thugs threatens the order very little, as they are a justification for the cop's salaries. The cops have no incentive to remove them, unless it escalates and creates demands on their leash-holders, the politicians. Witness the Toronto situation.

Prostitution is the exercice of one's freedom of choice. Ditto for adult drug use. This, they like to crack on (probably to pocket he crack themselves).

The big crackdown on drug distribution are not done to eradicate drugs from the market but to protect the the gang that gets police protection.

In the early 80's, downtown Montreal, there were two opposing clans distributing dope. The cops did everything to bust one of the two clans because the other one were headed / paid protection money to the police. Fact.

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Cops, when enforcing the Criminal Code of Canada (or most other "laws", in facts legislations) are NOT acting as "peace officers" but as wardens maintaining order troubled by you, a ward of the crown (slave). They enforce laws against "persons", (in law "legal fictions")That's a fact. Don't ever tell that a the judge though, he'll rip you a new ass hole, these are Verboten words in court.

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Well, come to think of it: it makes them brownie point for curbing vice while making them fairly safe from violence. It is the epitome in the application of violence: apply violence to consenting individual under the BS argument of protecting them.

It is well knows that if you witness a crime commited, the response time is always very long, that they make SURE they arrive on the crime scene AFTER there is no danger.

The cops are not in the business of protecting the population but of MAINTAINING ORDER.

Thus, their job is not to prevent the initiation of violence but to initiate it against individuals who threatens the order. Thugs threatens the order very little, as they are a justification for the cop's salaries. The cops have no incentive to remove them, unless it escalates and creates demands on their leash-holders, the politicians. Witness the Toronto situation.

Prostitution is the exercice of one's freedom of choice. Ditto for adult drug use. This, they like to crack on (probably to pocket he crack themselves).

The big crackdown on drug distribution are not done to eradicate drugs from the market but to protect the the gang that gets police protection.

In the early 80's, downtown Montreal, there were two opposing clans distributing dope. The cops did everything to bust one of the two clans because the other one were headed / paid protection money to the police. Fact.

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Cops, when enforcing the Criminal Code of Canada (or most other "laws", in facts legislations) are NOT acting as "peace officers" but as wardens maintaining order troubled by you, a ward of the crown (slave). They enforce laws against "persons", (in law "legal fictions")That's a fact. Don't ever tell that a the judge though, he'll rip you a new ass hole, these are Verboten words in court.

Anyway, that stuff, all of it is in the Matrix movies.
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People keep saying that but every year, cops bust at least one escort agency in the Isaland of Montreal. Some of these agencies don't sell drug and don't hire minors.
There are at least 100 escort agencies operating in Montreal, if all they bust is one a year, I'd say that's pretty much turning a blind eye on it.
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It is legal to operate escort agencies as long as you pay your taxes. What the girls do on their own time has nothing to do with the agency
I believe living off the avails of a prostitute is illegal, making escort agencies illegal. Like I said before they are tolerated but not legal.
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