To pop or not to pop? That is my question... - X Nations
      
      
Go Back   X Nations > X Nations > General Webmaster Business and Discussions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-03-2002, 01:48 PM   #1
BobbyR
BobbyR should edit this
unlearning
 
BobbyR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 78
xBucks: 3,866
Default To pop or not to pop? That is my question...

I've noticed a number of companies out there offering a reduced payout for no exits.

Is it better to get paid 20.00 with no exits or 35.00 with exits for the same join?
__________________
<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><tr><td width="135"><a href="http://www.mygaysimlife.com/webmasters.html" target="blank"><img src="http://mygaysimlife.com/illustratedbanners/adultdesign/04.gif" alt="The first Virtual World built for the gay community in mind!" width="250" height="50" border="2"></a></td></tr><td><a href="http://www.mygaysimlife.com/webmasters.html" target="blank">The first all gay Virtual World!</a></td></tr></table>
BobbyR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2002, 02:19 PM   #2
Evil Chris
Evil Chris is drinking Heineken
Clone of myself
 
Evil Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Montreal
Posts: 12,984
xBucks: 397,398
Send a message via ICQ to Evil Chris Send a message via AIM to Evil Chris Send a message via Skype™ to Evil Chris
Default

Lots of potential answers and variables in that question, Bobby...
You're making me think very hard this afternoon.
__________________

Our Experience Payze
chris at payze.com | ICQ 342827
Evil Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2002, 02:27 PM   #3
Darin
Darin should edit this
Abministrator
 
Darin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Las Vegas.. What happens here stays here.
Posts: 1,322
xBucks: 13,237
Send a message via ICQ to Darin
Default

Im confused, maybe you can explain a little deeper.
__________________
<TABLE BORDER="0" WIDTH="100%" CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="0"><TR><TD WIDTH="550" VALIGN="top"><FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE="2">H@ckers.com - ICQ: 402716<BR><BR>>> TGP Generator<I>!</I> - Build your own TGP and trade traffic instantly<I>!</I><BR>>> The Secret Weapon<I>!</I> - Convert SE Traffic Automatically<I>!</I><BR>>> Spamdex.com<I>!</I> - Fuck the White Rabbit<I>!</I>
<TD> <P ALIGN="right"><A HREF="http://www.thesecretweapon.com/track/refer/1" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://www.thesecretweapon.com/images/sw_flag_120x60.gif" WIDTH=120 HEIGHT=60 BORDER=0 ALT="Click this button dumbass!"></A></TR></TABLE>
Darin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2002, 02:36 PM   #4
Tobbe
Tobbe should edit this
X Master!
 
Tobbe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sweden
Posts: 304
xBucks: 9,042
Send a message via ICQ to Tobbe Send a message via AIM to Tobbe Send a message via Yahoo to Tobbe
Default

Quote:
Is it better to get paid 20.00 with no exits or 35.00 with exits for the same join?
i would say 35.00 with exit..
__________________

Gallery Dollar
Tobbe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2002, 02:54 PM   #5
Evil Chris
Evil Chris is drinking Heineken
Clone of myself
 
Evil Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Montreal
Posts: 12,984
xBucks: 397,398
Send a message via ICQ to Evil Chris Send a message via AIM to Evil Chris Send a message via Skype™ to Evil Chris
Default

Silvercash pays 40 per join and 30 if you make a sale for one of their sites on their exit... Is this the sort of thing you're talking about Bob?
__________________

Our Experience Payze
chris at payze.com | ICQ 342827
Evil Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2002, 04:53 PM   #6
BobbyR
BobbyR should edit this
unlearning
 
BobbyR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 78
xBucks: 3,866
Default

I'm talking about the way Silvercash allows the webmaster a choice of no exit consoles off the sites for a reduction in per join payout.

Silvercash offers this option as well as Hustlervip.

As a webmaster you now have a choice of sending your surfer to an adult site without exposing them to a slew of exits. You just take less of a payout per join.

Does that make sense?
__________________
<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><tr><td width="135"><a href="http://www.mygaysimlife.com/webmasters.html" target="blank"><img src="http://mygaysimlife.com/illustratedbanners/adultdesign/04.gif" alt="The first Virtual World built for the gay community in mind!" width="250" height="50" border="2"></a></td></tr><td><a href="http://www.mygaysimlife.com/webmasters.html" target="blank">The first all gay Virtual World!</a></td></tr></table>
BobbyR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2002, 04:56 PM   #7
chAos-mAtrix
chAos-mAtrix should edit this
I need $1.00 for coffee!
 
chAos-mAtrix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 34
xBucks: 840
Send a message via ICQ to chAos-mAtrix
Default

I think it is how you are promoting them if they are in your exits then you want no pop ups but if they are something that you are sending to then pop ups are ok ... just my thought
__________________
Matrix Content - #1 Content Provider
Matrix Bucks - Paying $30 a Join
Matrix Dollars - 50/50 Partnerships

Woody Winner
chAos-mAtrix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2002, 05:06 PM   #8
ElvisManson
ElvisManson should edit this
X Whoever...
 
ElvisManson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: whereever...
Posts: 35
xBucks: 856
Send a message via ICQ to ElvisManson
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by chAos-mAtrix
I think it is how you are promoting them if they are in your exits then you want no pop ups but if they are something that you are sending to then pop ups are ok ... just my thought
Was that English?

If you are effectively promoting a site the exit sales will be minimal...If you are throwing general traffic at a site you will get more exit sales.

It is good to offer WM's the choice....though we don't at this time we will be offereing it down the road.
__________________
Whatever...
ElvisManson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2002, 05:11 PM   #9
Evil Chris
Evil Chris is drinking Heineken
Clone of myself
 
Evil Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Montreal
Posts: 12,984
xBucks: 397,398
Send a message via ICQ to Evil Chris Send a message via AIM to Evil Chris Send a message via Skype™ to Evil Chris
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by ElvisManson


Was that English?

If you are effectively promoting a site the exit sales will be minimal...If you are throwing general traffic at a site you will get more exit sales.

It is good to offer WM's the choice....though we don't at this time we will be offereing it down the road.
Chaos, I didn't understand you at first either... but after reading Elvis I get it...

Elvis you put it in a way that qualfies the traffic... makes sense.
__________________

Our Experience Payze
chris at payze.com | ICQ 342827
Evil Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2002, 06:12 PM   #10
chAos-mAtrix
chAos-mAtrix should edit this
I need $1.00 for coffee!
 
chAos-mAtrix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 34
xBucks: 840
Send a message via ICQ to chAos-mAtrix
Default

I was running out the door so just had to throw something there ... LOL

if a good to know - how bout that English ... it is a Californian thing
__________________
Matrix Content - #1 Content Provider
Matrix Bucks - Paying $30 a Join
Matrix Dollars - 50/50 Partnerships

Woody Winner
chAos-mAtrix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2002, 06:37 PM   #11
ElvisManson
ElvisManson should edit this
X Whoever...
 
ElvisManson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: whereever...
Posts: 35
xBucks: 856
Send a message via ICQ to ElvisManson
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by chAos-mAtrix
I was running out the door so just had to throw something there ... LOL

if a good to know - how bout that English ... it is a Californian thing
Yeah right...you mean it is a " I did waaay too much shit when I was younger" thing
__________________
Whatever...
ElvisManson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2002, 06:48 PM   #12
chAos-mAtrix
chAos-mAtrix should edit this
I need $1.00 for coffee!
 
chAos-mAtrix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 34
xBucks: 840
Send a message via ICQ to chAos-mAtrix
Default

Alright i admit there are only a couple of flash backs that i deal with from the acid ... nothing that has ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

affected me too much

the colors man the colors
__________________
Matrix Content - #1 Content Provider
Matrix Bucks - Paying $30 a Join
Matrix Dollars - 50/50 Partnerships

Woody Winner
chAos-mAtrix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2002, 09:59 PM   #13
Aly
Aly should edit this
X Uberant
 
Aly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: West Hollywood
Posts: 154
xBucks: 2,335
Send a message via ICQ to Aly
Default Re: To pop or not to pop? That is my question...

Quote:
Originally posted by BobbyR
I've noticed a number of companies out there offering a reduced payout for no exits.

Is it better to get paid 20.00 with no exits or 35.00 with exits for the same join?
Simple answer, darling. Or at least.. I'll try and keep it simple!

The first situation/ problem is that a lot of sites cannot be promoted on great traffic sources like TheHun if they feature lots of exits, and in some cases, any exits at all. So, affiliates cannot drive traffic to a sponsor from this great traffic source if the sponsor has an aggressive exit strategy.

To address this issue, a sponsor may introduce a program without exits. This way, their affiliates can still send them all that traffic. The problem there is that in order to pay good money for signups, the sponsor needs to be making money on the exit traffic... The solution is, pay less for the sign-ups... For the affiliate, it's still a great source of cash if targeted well. And of course, for the sponsor, it's a sign-up, and we like those a lot.

It's simple math, commen sense, covers the bases quite nicely, and is a jolly good idea.

That's my 1.37 cents...
__________________
Aly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2002, 12:03 AM   #14
Evil Chris
Evil Chris is drinking Heineken
Clone of myself
 
Evil Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Montreal
Posts: 12,984
xBucks: 397,398
Send a message via ICQ to Evil Chris Send a message via AIM to Evil Chris Send a message via Skype™ to Evil Chris
Default

Oh Aly... you're cheeky...
LOL

Fantastic post btw.
__________________

Our Experience Payze
chris at payze.com | ICQ 342827
Evil Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2002, 12:36 AM   #15
Mister X
Mister X should edit this
FunB Fan Club Prez
 
Mister X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Montreal baby!
Posts: 1,997
xBucks: 13,772
Send a message via ICQ to Mister X
Default

I'll take the higher payout and say to hell with the Hun. His traffic pretty much sucks for signup sponsors anyway. That's if it was a gallery page. Off an exit I would probably do the same. An entry pop then I would likely take the console free option so the surfer doesn't get too pissed off before they even have a look.
__________________
<table width="95%" border="0"><tr><td><font size="-2"><a href="http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgi?CA=923906-0000&PA=462029&HTML=http://www.eromodelcash.com">Eromodel Cash. Promote it now!</a></font></td><td><div align="right"><font size="-2"><a href="http://www.eromodelgroup.com">Eromodel Group- for ALL your needs </a></font></div></td><td width="125" rowspan="3"><div align="right"><a href="http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgi?CA=923906-0000&PA=462029&HTML=http://www.eromodelcash.com"><img src="http://www.eromodelcash.com/Banner/00102.gif" width="120" height="60" border="0"></a></div></td></tr><tr><td width="40%"><font size="-2"><a href="http://www.lannibarbie.com">Lanny Barbie is THE Hottest New Pornstar</a></font></td><td><div align="right"><font size="-2"><a href="mailto:stewREMOVE@eromodelgroup.com?Subject= Hi%20There">Contact Me</a></font></div></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.judystarxxx.com"><font size="-2">JudyStarXXX.com</font></a></td><td><div align="right"><font size="-2">ICQ #165144564</font></div></td></tr></table>
Mister X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2002, 02:30 AM   #16
Raya
Raya should edit this
Senior Member
 
Raya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Boston, MA USA
Posts: 267
xBucks: 1,059
Send a message via ICQ to Raya Send a message via AIM to Raya Send a message via Yahoo to Raya
Default

Sigh! I feel dazed as if I was hit with a large object in the head. Wonderful thread. Now I will re-read it several dozen times to get my artists brain to make a picture.

Oh and about the vivid colors, I have learned it is best not to lick the paint!
__________________
Raya
ICQ#172878807
Photographer/Designer
<a href="http://www.mistressmayhemstudios.com/">
<img src="http://www.mistressmayhemstudios.com/images/banners/mayhembutton.jpg"</a>
MistressMayhem Studios
BlackLight Studios
Raya is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios
2013 - xnations.com
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:53 AM.
Skin by vBCore.com