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07-26-2005, 10:33 AM
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Dog Owners.. What do you do?
You are out walking with your dog, you see someone else walking with their dog, but they yank and pull that leash like crazy. The dog gets pulled from side to side.. Using (what you feel is) Excessive force.
Do you tell them that you feel they are too aggressive in their ways to deal with their dog or do you ignore it and mind your own business?
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07-26-2005, 10:37 AM
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I would say something! If you keep quiet you're as guilty in my books...Or you could always report it authorities! That's my 2 cents!
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07-26-2005, 10:39 AM
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I would say something! If you keep quiet you're as guilty in my books...Or you could always report it authorities! That's my 2 cents!
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I agree. exactly what I did today. Not everyone do though.. A park full of ppl.. 4-5 dog owners around. Im the one telling the cock****er to calm down.
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07-26-2005, 10:49 AM
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Mind yhour own bussiness .. ..
Then kick him in the ass as he walks by... " Hows it feel to be on the receiving end buddy? "
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07-26-2005, 11:24 AM
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I can't stand to see a dog being mistreated. I would definitely say something.
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07-26-2005, 09:31 PM
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I can't stand to see a dog being mistreated. I would definitely say something.
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I agree with what you said. In other countries, dogs are slaughtered and served as a delicacy
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07-26-2005, 10:17 PM
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i would definitely say something, if they shut me up, i'll shut up but at least i did my part. somehow it will affect the person.
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07-26-2005, 10:50 PM
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I agree with what you said. In other countries, dogs are slaughtered and served as a delicacy
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07-26-2005, 10:55 PM
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some parts in asia... they say when it is cold, their meat makes their body warmer than other livestock meats..
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07-26-2005, 11:45 PM
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I dont agree with animal abuse but at the same time maybe the dog was one that is thick headed. I dont know, I wasnt there. You were the only one here who saw it so really only you can make the call. If I was in your shoes it would depend on the severity of the situation. I know what its like to have to be a little rough with a dog to make it listen, I have a pitt and he is VERY VERY hardheaded. When I walk him it looks like we are fighting because he tugs at me and I tug at him and I yell and he barks, shit like that. Im sure people think I am rough with him. Hell its a chore keeping him from ripping hte leash from my hand and running off to fuck with shit....lol
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07-27-2005, 04:08 AM
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It is hard as an outsider to say the right thing as one would not know if the dominant dog has an attention seeking behaviour.
Allot of dogs that pull on a lead are dominant & not aggressive. It doesn't mean the owner can be aggressive one day and calm the next.
Dogs get confussed as they need consistency. Be kind, not spoiling, manage the situation.
It happed once as I was walking george. I myself even had to pull george back with one firm tug on his lead and bring him to my left side.
I remember saying g'day, nice dog, what's its name... ohh why did you name it that...
ohh i see your dog is a bit of a handful...
i'm wondering if you doing any dog management...
...It ended up with a 10 minute or so discussion.
If it got to a point where I saw a guy causing harm to a aminal I would have to step in, it's a humane thing to do.
Hey Don, do you have a picture of your Pitt?
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07-27-2005, 04:43 AM
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I would talk to them and see what is up. I raised a male Weimeraner who could be quite the handful at times. He weighed about 115- 120lbs of muscle. They are very intelligent dogs with a massive stubborn streak. Some days were just his "dumb" days where he was just difficult and would act as if he was never trained.
Nevertheless, he still needed his daily walk. Some days he just did not want to cooperate and the second I let him do what he wants on our walks, from that moment on, I would no longer be the dominate leader of the pack. So at times, it probably did look to an outsider that I was cruel to the dog by keeping him in line.
I'm a big time animal lover. I can't stand any animal to be mistreated. I can't even watch those shows on TV where they rescue animals or investigate owners for cruelty and that kind of stuff. Those shows usually make me cry and then I get pissed off at the people who could be so mean to an animal.
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07-27-2005, 05:24 AM
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Panky, monaro, Don soporno..
I agree, sometimes you need to be a little more aggressive and dominant and really take control. But im not talking about that.
Im sure Everyone that has been out walking their dogs, seen something that they perceive as abuse. be it "mild" or really bad.
Even though you might not know the story behind the dogs and their owners, you still see what you see.
all this dog was doing was tracking. a dalmatian. he could have just grabbed it by the collar and directed it if he had problems (which I believe he didnt have). But regardless if he had a problem with the dog or not, he chose to jerk and pull that leash super hard.
Compare it to a human baby.. Instead of taking the baby´s hand and leading it to the destination -> grabbing the hand and pulling with full brute force swinging the baby all over the place.. (not necessary).
Im just amazed no one has the balls to approach other owners, as I see shit like this atleast a few times each year.
on a side note.. All the trainers and owners I talked to says the same thing. You can control ANY dog by using the right technique, which involves proper training, disclipine, etc. And you can control a properly trained dog with vocal commands only, I.E not using leash, not using force, only commanding the dog by talking to it.
Watching a properly trained dog is amazing.
Now.. If I only can figure out a method to properly train some owners..
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07-27-2005, 05:45 AM
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Some owners seriously do need trained.
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07-27-2005, 05:52 AM
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some owners don't deserve to have a dog for they really do not know how to get in touch with their pets. try giving them a fish or something that requires no contact or low maintenance.. maybe they would be better owners of pets.
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07-27-2005, 07:51 AM
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I strongly think THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BAD DOG, ONLY A BAD OWNER!!!!!
Visualad, I'm not sure comparing a baby to a dog is very accurate, I'm a dog lover, but there is quite a difference between raising a child and training a dog! A dog is an animal...
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07-27-2005, 08:25 AM
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Quote:
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I strongly think THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BAD DOG, ONLY A BAD OWNER!!!!!
Visualad, I'm not sure comparing a baby to a dog is very accurate, I'm a dog lover, but there is quite a difference between raising a child and training a dog! A dog is an animal...
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read my post. I didnt compare the 2, I just tried to give you a picture of how he handled the dog (as compared to how he could have done it).
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07-27-2005, 08:35 AM
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Here's a picture of our dog Buddy (Ryan's dog actually) We rescued him from the dog shelter!
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07-27-2005, 09:47 AM
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Buddy is a gem! He's such a big sweetie!
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07-27-2005, 11:39 AM
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Quote:
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Here's a picture of our dog Buddy (Ryan's dog actually) We rescued him from the dog shelter!
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what a stud!! ;-)
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07-27-2005, 11:41 AM
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Yeah we like to think so...Why don't you show us what your dog looks like babe?
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07-27-2005, 11:45 AM
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Yeah we like to think so...Why don't you show us what your dog looks like babe?
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Gotta snap some digital photos first... Im in love with my old cam.. So I have tons of (non digital) photos..
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07-27-2005, 12:02 PM
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Heres my homie. Pitts are known for being, well, stupid. I hate saying that cause they are actually very very smart they just act stupid...LOL
One of if not the most hardheaded dog I have ever dealt with...lol
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07-27-2005, 12:16 PM
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He's adorable Don!
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07-27-2005, 12:36 PM
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What a cutie! I know what you mean, we had a chocolate Lab and boy was she stubborn!!!! She was always trying to be alpha and dominate us! God bless her soul!
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07-27-2005, 10:38 PM
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I say mind your own business. People have being killed over shit that they shouldn't have said. If a person is so compelled to do something they should offer to buy the dog or start a conversion so maybe the person will stop yanking on the dog at least for a while.
How would any of you like for a complete stranger to approach you and tell you how to do anything, let alone treat your property. I for one would proably tell them to mine their own fucking business, but every situation is different.
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07-28-2005, 01:23 AM
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oh.. you have really cute dogs! i'll post a pic of mine in a little while too..
anyways, i agree, dogs are indeed man's bestfriend. no bad dogs, only bad owners.
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07-28-2005, 02:12 AM
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You mind your own business.
Walking a dog on a leash is excessive to begin with if you think about it. Depending on how big and agressive your dog is, your dog - when he/she sees another dog - can yank your damn arm out chasing after it. So I have no problem yanking my dog in when the needs calls for it.
You nede to have your dog properly trained. Six months ago while walking my dog we were attacked by another larger dog. The other dog came after us and caught us totally by surprise. I quickly placed myself between the two dogs and told my dog to sit, which she did.
My dog would never ever think of leaving my yard to chase another dog without my permission.
I can now take my dog for walks with no leash and verbally control her - tell her to cross the street or to get back on the sidewalk. When we come to a street corner she stops, sits, and waits for me to catch up.
So I don't need to mistreat my little doggie anymore. I was nice and stern with her in the beginning, but now she's great to be with.
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07-28-2005, 02:12 AM
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here's a picture. She's currently sleeping under my desk!
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She looks like she could be tough if she had to.
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