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Old 01-23-2008, 05:56 PM   #31
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Girl will be hit on by guys no matter what industry and no matter what the timing, its a given.

If they are there to work, that is their priority. Harmless flirtations etc are part of the industry we are in.

If there are shdy thing happening to trik the girl into sleeping with the person, that person doing th shady deal is an ASS ad I would hope not welcomed to be hanging about with us moral folks.

Elissa Well said on your part as well
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Old 01-23-2008, 07:30 PM   #32
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Hello Everyone,

I am kind of divided on this debate. In one way, the girls who work for LiveCamNetwork.com who come with us to shows are on "my dime". I want them to be professional, represent the company, and bring back some leads.

At the same time, they're adults, and human. You can't get in the way of young love (or lust, or quickies, or whatever). If they're going to meet someone and hookup, who am I to stand in their way?

What I hate though are idiot newbie webmasters (or even worse, idiot posers who don't know sweet fuck all about anything) who go to the shows just to get laid.

What's funny is alot of people think women in the industry are stupid. I overheard one guy, I won't say who, who could not seperate "business" and "pleasure" for more than 2 seconds during a conversation. "Yes I'd really like to do business with you", he told her, "come to my room and we can sign the deal". Like, what the fuck?

Of course there is the "talent" who are new to the industry and are busy modeling and have not learned how the business side works yet. Then there are the women who know the business inside and out. What cracks me up are the morons who can't be bothered to know who is who, or which is which. They approach all women at trade shows as if they are "dumb talent", and make a complete ass of themselves. Here's news for you. Not all "Talent" is "dumb", and not all women are "talent".

Those of you who know me know that I'm a pretty quiet person. I listen carefully to what other people say and have pretty good ears. I have seen several of the LCN girls get treated this way, right in front of me. I was embarrased for them. "Don't worry about it - the next person will take you seriously and look at your eyes instead of your tits".

As I said earlier, I'm of 2 opinions. This kind of thing will always happen in any industry. You WANT your people to behave, but you have to let them be who they are too. So at the next tradeshow, tell your hotties to represent your good name during the day, but let them play at night. Make sure they get the respect they deserve from potential new business partners though. If the new people you're about to make a deal with treats your crew badly, move on to someone else. There's lots of other people out there.

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Old 01-24-2008, 01:39 PM   #33
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And I have actually been asked WHY I so enjoy working for 2Much?
Mark's respect for all of the female employees here, as well as his willingness to be open about what "could" happen before we ever set foot on the trade-show floor are just 2 of the reason why!
Every show that I have been to, I've been treated as "Talent" first, and I'm cool with that...I am content for our sites, so what...
It's the idiots who refuse to acknowledge the fact that I actually have a brain and that I am not there to screw them for a sale that irritate me.
I think that any newbie; male or female, talent or tech should be watched over their first time out and intelligently INFORMED of the things that can happen at shows, without scaring the hell outta them with horror stories.
I feel it is the employer's responsibility to educate their employees about the good AND the bad, or not put new people into a situation that they may not be prepared for!
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:57 PM   #34
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I think this goes for any industry, not just ours.

I remember going to Bar and Nightclub conventions. The only difference between the two shows is you get laid much more at the Bar conventions...

LOL

Soooo true.. I have a few friends that know what I do and they have this idea that the conventions are an orgyfest for everyone. Was playing poker with abunch of people right after I got back from a the Hollywood FL show and one of my buddies told people I had got back from an adult webamster convention. All of sudden everybody assumed i was takign part in orgies and shit and I tried to explain I was there trying to do business and that I mostly did business and gung out with friends I've known for years and that gaming and regular workers conventions have more guests getting laid than our conventions do and nobody believed me no matter what I said. LOL
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:41 AM   #35
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It's the idiots who refuse to acknowledge the fact that I actually have a brain and that I am not there to screw them for a sale that irritate me.
wait.. you got a brain?? So all this time that I would just stare at your boobs when I talked to you.. you never said anything

and also.. I never bring talent to shows. Past experience has shown not good idea. Which will tell ya one day. And not on a night when am home recovering from night's before Ozzy concert and have you and MediaGuy blasting me on the phone to come drinking


ps. I'm still gonna look at your boobs even if I know now that you have a brain. Boobs first. Sorry but have to set my priorities
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Old 01-25-2008, 12:38 PM   #36
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wait.. you got a brain?? So all this time that I would just stare at your boobs when I talked to you.. you never said anything

and also.. I never bring talent to shows. Past experience has shown not good idea. Which will tell ya one day. And not on a night when am home recovering from night's before Ozzy concert and have you and MediaGuy blasting me on the phone to come drinking


ps. I'm still gonna look at your boobs even if I know now that you have a brain. Boobs first. Sorry but have to set my priorities
LMAO and you still didn't show! You bastard!!!

re: ps. Buggy you can look at my boobs anytime ya like, darlin! I know that you know I have a brain...err...somewhere!
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:37 AM   #37
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I like looking at Kedras bobbies too,
I just did not know it was that obvious.
In all honesty many people will form their opinion of you, your company or the company you represent in the few minutes you meet them once in a blue moon at a show or party.
You can use the time to promote your company, grow and solidify your relationships , find new leads and opinions on how to do things.
Or you can stare at Kedras boobies.
As I multi task well I can do both, but that is not for everyone.
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:39 AM   #38
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I took 4 pro girls to LA and have taken girls to a few expos so my take is this.

Its understandable why many promoters dont wish to take girls because no matter how much you watch or train the girls you are still entering a situation full of mostly males who specialise in getting girls to push to thier limits.

Most webmasters are really cool and straight up but each expo will contain its share of not so cool peeps.

Combine this with the fact of drink,parties,lack of sleep due to travel and many other factors inc bullshit promises and offers,to me its like putting goldfish in a pool of sharks.

Even smart girls are no match for experienced adult webmasters in most cases and Im sure youd all agree on that.

So the bottom line is this.

If I was a promotor with 1 good girl that I can stay with consistant I would take her to many shows but I wouldnt take a team of girls.
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