AVS sites...

[nanda]

Originally posted by TurboAngel
It's nice down there, not that much snow so that's a plus.

You don't like snow? Are u from there originally? Is it nice down there?

[TurboAngel]

Originally posted by nanda
You don't like snow? Are u from there originally? Is it nice down there?

I hate the snow! LOL

[nanda]

Originally posted by TurboAngel
I hate the snow! LOL

So..NJ isn't for u....

[TurboAngel]

Well that and the watter prob they have.

[nanda]

Originally posted by TurboAngel
Well that and the watter prob they have.

Who?

[TurboAngel]

You can read all about it HERE , very bad.

[nanda]

Originally posted by TurboAngel
You can read all about it HERE , very bad.

WOW That really sucks

[TurboAngel]

Take a look at THIS .

[nanda]

Originally posted by TurboAngel
Take a look at THIS .

Thats some crazy stufff! Great link!

[TurboAngel]

Originally posted by nanda
WOW That really sucks

Sorry about that. When I think about how bad it is here and to add that and the Cancer Clusters I get a little upity.


Take a look HERE

[nanda]

Originally posted by TurboAngel
Sorry about that. When I think about how bad it is here and to add that and the Cancer Clusters I get a little upity.


Take a look HERE

Wow!! In nassau county Ny, they have the highest rate of breast cancer!

[baddog]

Originally posted by nanda
I see your point, and I agree..I hope you don't think that I am just trying to fight you, and I am not trying to put avs down, I am actually for that part of the industry getting better!

hey, no worries . . . I never back down from a good discussion, I just like to make sure that the lurkers (and they are out there) are not just arbitrarily reading some article and deciding if it is on the Internet it must be true.

[baddog]

Originally posted by TurboAngel
How often do you update it?

since these are all standard sites, there is no recurring, and it only costs $4.95 for a lifetime membership, there is no need to update your site. Instead, just build another site, and increase your chances for a signup, and link them together to increase your PR and SE rankings.

[baddog]

Originally posted by breaker
Is it really worth the trouble building and promoting AVS sites if you run paysite already. Or is it mainly trageted for webmasters who don't want to setup a real paysite yet/can't afford?

And how well does the average AVS convert against paysites?

AVS is a great way to promote your paysite. Let me give a scenario, you can modify to fit your purposes.

Let's say you have a paysite, and it costs $25/mo to become a member. You get what? Maybe $15 after expenses?

Now, suppose you promote your paysite via TGP traffic. We all know that as a rule, TGPers are cheap and not easily seperated from their hard earned money. So, what do you think is going to be easier to sell to them? A $25/mo membership to a site that is updated every week or two, or a $4.95 lifetime membership that has dozens of new sites added (meaning new content, in a variety of niches) on a daily basis? I think you will find that when properly presented they are going to go for the $4.95 lifetime membership.

Okay, now you have sold a $4.95 membership and will collect between $20 and $30 (depending on how many signups you get a pay period. You have also verified that you are now showing your content to a person that not only has a CC, but is willing to use it for online porn.

So, now you give better quality content in your AVS site than you would in a TGP gallery, and you are going to upsell your paysite in the members area. So, essentially you are getting paid to give a more explicit tour of what your paysite has to offer.

As far as conversion ratios, I have looked at peoples stats and see everything from 1:3 to 1:50 . . . . sometimes higher depending on the TGP they are bringing their traffic from.

Overall, we convert usually about 1:35 each pay period.

[baddog]

Originally posted by breaker
Is it with Freesite or SE traffic you try to promote AVSes only? And is TGP gallery traffic a waste? Better to send to paysites or PPS sponsors?

any way that you would promote your paysite should be used when promoting your AVS.

While TGP traffic may not be great with some sponsors, that is the beauty of SPP and what I was discussing above. TGPers will find $4.95 to be a great value, and by the sheer volume, it is nuts to pass it up. I would do TGP over freesite primarily because of the numbers.

1:5 conversions are great, buy if only getting 100 clicks . . . I would rather have 1:200 with 200,000 clicks

[nanda]

Originally posted by baddog
hey, no worries . . . I never back down from a good discussion, I just like to make sure that the lurkers (and they are out there) are not just arbitrarily reading some article and deciding if it is on the Internet it must be true.

You know.....you make a very valid point there!! I never thought about lurkers and just giving them a one side view....

[latinafind]

I use Adult Bouncer and, if they pay me my webmaster referrals commission, I will be using them again as I am not sending much traffic right now

[SKULL]

Originally posted by latinafind
I use Adult Bouncer and, if they pay me my webmaster referrals commission, I will be using them again as I am not sending much traffic right now

This is the second AB recommend.. do they have a lot of free content?

[latinafind]

Adult Bouncer have a absolute TON of movie content. Don't attempt to get it ready on dialup though!!

[TurboAngel]

Originally posted by baddog
since these are all standard sites, there is no recurring, and it only costs $4.95 for a lifetime membership, there is no need to update your site. Instead, just build another site, and increase your chances for a signup, and link them together to increase your PR and SE rankings.

Cool, thanks for the info.

[baddog]

Originally posted by SKULL
This is the second AB recommend.. do they have a lot of free content?

the caveat on AB is their legal issues. Lots of questions about the license or lack thereof on the content in their members area.

[baddog]

Originally posted by nanda
You know.....you make a very valid point there!! I never thought about lurkers and just giving them a one side view....

I always think about the lurkers when I make my posts since I know I get approached by more of them than I do known board personalities

when I go to events like Internext I am always blown away by the number of people I meet that know who I am from different boards, even though they never post at any of them

[suesheboy]

Baddog. You are every where at every turn on every board!

Searched google for baddog:

baddog porn. Results 1 - 10 of about 889
baddog adult. Results 1 - 10 of about 717
baddog internet. Results 1 - 10 of about 3,900

[nanda]

Originally posted by baddog
I always think about the lurkers when I make my posts since I know I get approached by more of them than I do known board personalities

when I go to events like Internext I am always blown away by the number of people I meet that know who I am from different boards, even though they never post at any of them

Well, thanks for the info you've given..

[baddog]

Originally posted by suesheboy
Baddog. You are every where at every turn on every board!

Searched google for baddog:

baddog porn. Results 1 - 10 of about 889
baddog adult. Results 1 - 10 of about 717
baddog internet. Results 1 - 10 of about 3,900

yikes, that is almost scary

[baddog]

Originally posted by suesheboy
Baddog. You are every where at every turn on every board!

Searched google for baddog:


baddog internet. Results 1 - 10 of about 3,900

ummm, none of the first 20 are me . . . and I found about 10 of the other search results that weren't me . . . so I do have a life after all

[nanda]

Originally posted by baddog
ummm, none of the first 20 are me . . . and I found about 10 of the other search results that weren't me . . . so I do have a life after all

I don't think anyone doubts that u do!
So there are more bad dos running around...