warning: graphic video, use caution

gunner · 11-03-2003, 12:09 PM

we've all seen hardcore, but not everyone has seen it kicked up a notch. Enter porn director Khan Tusion.
Extreme? Understatement. Disgusting? Maybe. Profitable? Definitely.
just take a look for yourself

http://meatholes.com/trailers_wmv/me...an_trailer.wmv

http://meatholes.com/trailers_wmv/me...na_trailer.mpg

Evil Chris · 11-04-2003, 12:41 AM

wow no comments...

Well Gunner... I personally am not a big fan of the degredation content. Even if it has full consent etc...

I don't need to feel empowered over women to get off. Just my 2 cents.

Mister X · 11-04-2003, 12:42 AM

Pretty disgusting. But I'm sure it'll sell like crazy. There's a lot of misogynistic wierdos that will really get off on it out there in surfer land I know. I hope he pays those girls really really well cuz he's gonna have a hard time getting models for that if they see the trailers before.

gunner · 11-04-2003, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Mister X
Pretty disgusting. But I'm sure it'll sell like crazy. There's a lot of misogynistic wierdos that will really get off on it out there in surfer land I know. I hope he pays those girls really really well cuz he's gonna have a hard time getting models for that if they see the trailers before.

no way do the girls see the trailers beforehand, obviously I can't say for sure since I'm not there, but I'd say it's highly unlikely. That's part of the reason I posted this. Do you think these "models" end up getting
taken advantage of?

kassidy · 11-04-2003, 01:15 PM

I find degredation porn really sad. Sad that the girls are willing to do that for money, sad that people actually buy it and get off to it. I would never personally have anything to do with those sites professionally.

That being said, the girls are paid, *well* I'm sure, and consent to participating. Although I think his stuff is quite edgy and pushes the line with the obscenity laws, the same freedoms that allow us to produce softcore balloon content also allow him to make his version of erotica (and I use that term loosely....)

Mister X · 11-04-2003, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by gunner
no way do the girls see the trailers beforehand, obviously I can't say for sure since I'm not there, but I'd say it's highly unlikely. That's part of the reason I posted this. Do you think these "models" end up getting
taken advantage of?

That question is really impossible to answer unless you have acess to the release forms and the video of the girl that they take before shooting. He would pretty much have to make it clear to the models that the session will include degradation/humiliation to give himself legal protection. If not he would be leaving himself open to charges or civil suits. That said I kind of doubt that the average girl would be very willing to do it if she actually understood the degree of the humiliation before shooting. Unless she was making a LOT of money. But it takes all kinds and some girls for sure will do most anything for money.

Mister X · 11-04-2003, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by kassidy
Although I think his stuff is quite edgy and pushes the line with the obscenity laws, the same freedoms that allow us to produce softcore balloon content also allow him to make his version of erotica (and I use that term loosely....)

If I was producing that content in Canada I would have fairly serious concerns about the legality of it. Canada has some pretty strict laws about the depiction of rape/forced sex so I would definitely want to get a legal opinion. Of course having seen only the teaser clips I don't know how close the actual content comes to that. Unfortunately the lawyer would probably give one of those ass-covering opinions about grey areas. The very fact that any kind of obscenity prosecution in Canada is relatively rare is a disadvantage when it comes to having legal precedents. I might be remembering it incorrectly but I think even the Sweet thing involved allegations of assault, etc. and not obscenity.

gunner · 11-04-2003, 02:45 PM

i'm not sure what amount of money it would take to get a girl to agree to being called a dirty piece of shit whore, asked to wave at her father while she licks hairy ass, and then told to open up her nasty hole so that Khan can stick his foot up her pussy? I dunno.

Mister X · 11-04-2003, 08:30 PM

There are girls athat actually seem to get off on that shit but I suspect they are pretty rare individuals. That's why I tend to think that he probably isn't 100% candid with them before the shoot or at least tends to gloss over it. But on the other hand most all of the models I know would have just walked out of a shoot like that once it became clear what was happening. I guess it's one of those things that you never really understand unless you are involved. I really would like to see his model releases and video clearances though.

hyatla · 11-04-2003, 08:38 PM

Disgusting.

Mister X · 11-04-2003, 08:38 PM

On a related topic....

Courts in the US have ruled that, after having given prior assent to sex, if a girl changes her mind in the middle and you don't stop it's rape. I kind of wonder if that could have an effect on video shoots, even with a signed release. And 100% prior disclosure of what was going on. If a girl said she had changed her mind and a producer told her she wouldn't get paid, etc. and that he already had a signed release, would he be open to legal ramifications? I know if a girl changes her mind AFTER the shoot is completed and she has been paid then there is no legal obligation not to use her pics/video. But what about during the shoot, after signing but before being paid?

Crak_JMan · 11-04-2003, 08:50 PM

No Comments...

GrimShawn · 11-04-2003, 09:09 PM

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

gunner · 11-05-2003, 12:03 AM

what is also surprising is that more webmasters haven't put their two cents in on this thread. I thought this was something new, something not everyone has seen, but maybe I'm the last one to know as usual.

Seven888 · 11-05-2003, 08:28 AM

uggg

Rainbo1956 · 11-05-2003, 11:05 AM

Unfortunetly it's been around for some time....
It is just sad. If the women actually sign releases they may be doing so under duress. Yeah maybe some women actually like it...but suppose they only like it because they really believe they're pieces of shit.
That's sad!

Platinum Doug · 11-05-2003, 11:42 AM

Yeah, I'm not into that stuff AT ALL . . . it's way too sad, be it for real or not. I'm the happy, hollywood ending kind of guy. I need that. Even in porn!

And what's even scarrier is that there's a large portion of the male population who have no idea -- or the wrong idea (wrong being anything that's different from my idea of romance) -- of what making love to someone is about. Then they see this and get ideas.

I'm all for freedom of expression, but sheesh . . .