Shootings in Montreal

[Evil Chris]

MONTREAL — Two gunmen opened fire Wednesday inside downtown Montreal’s Dawson College leaving wounding 16 people and sending hundreds of screaming and terrified students and staff running into the streets and seeking cover.

The hospital authority reported 12 victims were admitted to hospital — six in critical condition, two serious and four in stable condition.

Reports said the two gunman were dead — one had been shot and one had taken his own life. Police spokesman Sgt. Ian Lafrenieree confirmed one gunman was "neutralized."

SWAT teams and police canine units are going through the buildings looking for victims, CNN reported.

"Most of the students have exited the college grounds," Sgt. Giuseppe Boccardi told the network.

Outside, a state of panic quickly emerged with frightened students giving wildly varying accounts of what was happening inside. There were several reports saying there was one gunman, while others said there were as many as four.

Television images showed police pulling a bloodied person out of the building, while ambulances gathered as medical workers rushed stretchers through the streets.

Helicopters are buzzing overhead and emergency vehicles continued to arrive an hour after the first reports of shots.

One student told a radio station she saw two people who had been shot, with one person hit in the neck.

The ambulance department confirmed three people have been transported to hospital in critical condition and there are several more wounded inside the facility, which has about 10,000 full-and part-time students.

Live television pictures showed students continuing to flee from all exits long after the first shots were reported. Some of the students ran away from the buildings holding their hands in the air.

Several people were seen being taken out on stretchers. On the front steps of the building, blood was seen on the ground near a police vehicle.

Witnesses said it appeared one gunman was chasing someone and at least 20 shots were fired.

Michel Boyer, 19, told CTV he saw a masked gunman wearing black from head to toe and wearing a mask was seen with a black rifle or shotgun. He said he heard 20 shots and ran for shelter in a classroom.

"I think I'm very lucky to be alive and that is wasn't injured," Boyer said.

"It was like something from a movie, it is the most scary thing that has ever happened to me."

Another report said a white gunman with a Mohawk haircut and dressed in black opened fire in the building.

The shootings began around 1:00 p.m. Eastern time and reportedly took place in the cafeteria, on the third floor of the school.

Alexandra Garcia was in class when she heard shots close by to the classroom.

"We were hearing shots repeatedly...we were all stressed," she told CBC Newsworld. Her and the other students barricaded themselves inside the classroom by putting a desk in front of the door and she hid under her desk until a police officer arrived to the room

"I was just hoping the shooter wasn’t going to come in and shoot us."

Student Caroline Stephens, was in class at the time when someone burst into the classroom telling them to get out because there was a gunman in the school. The teacher did not take the warning seriously, said Stephens, because the teacher thought it was a joke at first. Upon hearing the ensuing commotion of people fleeing the building, Stephens and her classmates evacuated. She described seeing a student with a gunshot wound to the stomach outside the school being helped by bystanders.

The school is located in a densely populated area of the city with stores and offices surrounding it.

It is not the first time there has been a shooting in a Montreal college. In December 1989, Marc Lepine shot and killed 14 women and wounded several others at Ecole Polytechnique during a shooting rampage that ended when he took his own life.

In an interview on CBC Newsworld, Bloc Leader Gilles Duceppe said he found out about the shootings shortly after 1 p.m.

"It’s tough to understand, that shouldn’t happen in a civilized society," he said.

Duceppe said while the motive for the assault is unclear he expressed concern about the amount of gun violence on television and said perhaps it influences some people to commit violent acts. "We have to look at more than what happened (in Montreal), how come those things happen?" asked Duceppe.

Family Hotlines:

Information hotlines were set up by police for families to call for Dawson College shooting info.

(514) 280-2880; (514) 280-2806

[Funbrunette]

It's horrible!!! I still can't get over it...My heart goes out to everyone!

[Vid Vicious]

Some crazy fucks in this world

[Evil Chris]

The shooter's body has been identified. Kimveer Gill, a 25 year old from Laval (just north of Montreal).
He was one of your typical world hating, goth types who had a blog on www.vampirefreaks.com (the blog is now removed). Obviously he had serious mental issues...

News Link contains pics from the blog as well as the scene yesterday.

The only death which came at his hands was that of 18 year old Anastasia DeSousa of Montreal. She was only 18.

[pawsregd]

Still no motive either. He wasn't a student, a former student, employee or former employee of the college.

[stonegatherer]

This is horrible.

Is his website on that site that shows webpages though time?

[stonegatherer]

The website is available ..... it just takes forever to load.

[Evil Chris]

http://vampirefreaks.com/journal.php?pg=1&u=fatality666

that's his journal... so you can see the last entries he made before going on the shooting spree. It takes a minute to load up.

[tornell]

idiots

[Vid Vicious]

http://www.gothmetal.net/calendar/dayview/2005/8/16

this is another site hes on .. Taken down now too

[JoeyCanoli]

These fucking goths should all be looked into. Anyone with black fingernails who listens to satanic music should definitely be monitored.

[Vid Vicious]

Thanks to googleCache .. you can see what type of mood and person he was just hourts before he left home on his trip to meet up with his maker

http://vampirefreaks.com/journal.php...&u=fatality666 his blog

his webpage http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:...n&ct=clnk&cd=1

[TheLegacy]

unfortunately bitterness and lack of value of life is not friends to any one group or it would be easy to simply round up all Goths etc. and stop future killings. Those in ivy league schools to trailer parks also fall prey to the mindset of how much life is hated and the inner desire to go out in a blaze of glory - taking anyone and everyone in their wake - to be remembered.

we live in a world where fear and the worship of those who can create it reigns. Gangs are sought after by kids not just for their companionship but perceived protection - guns give the illusion of power - and to see people screaming / running from you means in this day and age - that you are as God... something to be feared and taken seriously.

Death itself was not his only goal - or he would have committed suicide in front of cops without killing anyone. He as many people today want - is respect and a sense that others will look and pay attention to them. Sadly - society is set up to fester more of these mental problems rather than cure them - but we all - have the potential to go postal. Some of us are more tolerant than others while few of us actually have learned to cope in a world that kids simply haven't been taught to cope in

[Evil Chris]

Something someone wrote in went like this: "undercover agencies currently monitor potential child pornographers or child predators, why should they also monitor the online activities of potentially murderous people like this one in Montreal?"

[Vid Vicious]

I read some of his blog ... Seems to me he already had socialpathic tendenses. In one passage he talks abou having an odd dream .. a what he calls normal dream .. About a girl, beaty and love .. rather then he usual dreams of death murder and killings .. This blog was written earlier in the month just days before the his rampage ... Maybe for a a trained mind there might of been more tale tell signs in his blogs ... I don't know, it just seemed pretty obvious.

However would it be fair (in a general sense) for all of our thought and actions be monitored regularly, but some Gov't agency .. As a type of Crime prevention .. Wouldn't that be going against our right .. for personal privacy???

This sort of stuff can open up a whole new can of worms .. and possibly another kamokazi killer out to give his own pityfull life a meaning.

[cdsmith]

How does a dimented idiot like that get his hands on the kind of gun he had?

Did any of those blog pages have an answer to that?


There's got to be a way to make it much harder for people of such obviously-questionable character to obtain firearms these days.

[pawsregd]

Originally Posted by cdsmith

How does a dimented idiot like that get his hands on the kind of gun he had?

Did any of those blog pages have an answer to that?


There's got to be a way to make it much harder for people of such obviously-questionable character to obtain firearms these days.

According to news reports he legally obtained the gun he used. Passed all the courses, tests and background checks. He also had to have two people (non-family) sign for him to attest that he was "sane" in mind and did not pose a threat to people...how do you think those people feel right now

[BuggyG]

here a link to write a thought on the passing on such a young woman who's life was taken away just as she was starting

http://www.legacy.com/Obituaries.asp...sonID=19212332

[stonegatherer]

Originally Posted by BuggyG

here a link to write a thought on the passing on such a young woman who's life was taken away just as she was starting

http://www.legacy.com/Obituaries.asp...sonID=19212332

Looks like she was a pretty girl. It is a shame.