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Old 02-08-2003, 04:10 PM   #1
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Talking >>> The long anticipated icq chat log. Who is the jerk?

Clarification:
* I deleted the name of the company. Besides that - the chat log is untouched
* This has been 10 days ago more or less.
* needless to say I haven't heard from him since.
* This chat starts after several attempts to contact him over several days prior to this chat.

Tell me if its me (Pidgin) that is hyper-sensitive and in-fact thats a descent customer rep by your standard?
Your comments are welcome and appriciated

Quote:
Pidgin 1/28/200 5:08 PM hello

Arnaud 1/28/200 7:38 PM hello

Arnaud 1/28/200 7:50 PM who are you ?

Pidgin 1/29/200 2:49 PM My name is Ron Kass
            I think you are from D****s. Tell me if I
            am wrong.
Arnaud 1/29/200 5:33 PM you are not wrong
Arnaud 1/29/200 5:34 PM I'm Arnaud
            what can i do for you ?

Pidgin 1/29/200 5:34 PM I was talking to another guy with your company
            and he told me to contact you about promoting
            your system.
            It took me quite some time to get in touch
            with you I hope its not typical

Arnaud 1/29/200 5:36 PM i just received an "hello" from you yesterday
            which i replied to
            what can i do for you ?

Pidgin 1/29/200 5:38 PM I am considering becoming an affiliate of
            D****s. I do though want to promote it
            without creating an AVS site. only through
            banners etc.

Arnaud 1/29/200 5:39 PM what kind of volume are we talking about ?

Pidgin 1/29/200 5:41 PM I will start with low volume - banner only
            advertising.
            My webmaster might know volumes better than
            me.
            If it proves to be high converting system I
            may use it on XXXManager.com

Arnaud 1/29/200 5:48 PM ok let me get this straight : this is a great
            opportunity for anybody to be able to promote
            D*****s without an archive. At this time, i work
            with 9 large volumes sites whom send me
            between 2,5k and 20k daily traffic with a
            conversion of 1:110 believe it or not
            for 25 or more signups per day, i am
            interested in helping you out.
            for less, you'll create the account and you'll
            do everything by yourself and you'll never
            hear about me
            is that ok for you ?

Pidgin 1/29/200 5:49 PM Is that an explanation or a threat??

Arnaud 1/29/200 5:49 PM that's just the way it works buddy

Pidgin 1/29/200 5:51 PM well. I want to test your program to see if it
            is something I would like to promote for long
            term. If I can do it on my own I will. If I
            fail I won't promote it.
            is that ok for you ?

Arnaud 1/29/200 5:55 PM fine for me dude
            My point is that if you make 2 signups a day,
            i will not be here to help you out
            If you make 25 signups, that's different

Pidgin 1/29/200 5:57 PM Arnaud, you act the way you want or your
            company (if its not yours) tells you to and I
            will judge your system based on everything
            including your attitude and support.

Arnaud 1/29/200 5:57 PM thank you very much

Pidgin 1/29/200 6:00 PM Now..
            is there anything special I should know about
            your program besides your attitude?
            Like links and rules for non-avs-site
            promotion?

Arnaud 1/29/200 6:04 PM i am not sure i understand your question
            tell me a bit more about your traffic, this
            will help me finding out the best way for you
            to promote us

Arnaud 1/29/200 6:05 PM and signup here :
            http://*.*.*.*/trackers/newaffiliate.php

Arnaud 1/29/200 6:07 PM and please stop talking about my attitude, i
            do not have one, i am just explaining how we
            work. If you are not happy with the way we
            work, you are more than welcome to chek out
            the competition.
            What we are offering with this system is
            unique and this is an opportunity for you, not
            for me
            no hard feelings, just wanted to clarify

Pidgin 1/29/200 6:08 PM I have traffic or places I can promote
            programs. I do not want to open an AVS site so
            promoting an AVS system is only an option for
            me if I can promote the system without owning
            one of the AVS sites on it (an "external"
            affiliate if you want to call it that way). I
            will start with little traffic for a while to
            see if I think it converts well for me and if
            I think it is I will grow from there.

Pidgin 1/29/200 6:08 PM Hell of clarification!
            I am honored to be given this opportunity.
            Thank you.

Arnaud 1/29/200 6:08 PM no problem

Pidgin 1/29/200 6:14 PM Sorry for it but I was actually a tiny-little
            bit sarcastic with the "I'm honored... thank
            you"..
            Are you sure its just me? Or is something
            wrong with your attitude?

Arnaud 1/29/200 6:18 PM i would propose to start all over again in a
            couple of hours or tomorrow as this conversion
            obviously does not lead anywhere. I am not
            sure we are on a good field to make the best
            possible business together.
            What do you think about that proposal ?

Arnaud 1/29/200 6:24 PM it's just a proposal, feel free to tell me
            anything you'd like to do
            i am not trying to be sarcastic here, i am
            just trying to find how to close this deal
            professionnally

Pidgin 1/29/200 6:24 PM I think it shouldn't take you several hours to
            reevaluate your attitude in this conversation.
            Just check out our not-too-long ICQ
            conversation history.
            Then again, maybe it’s me too sensitive and
            you are using a very new sales technique that
            is aimed towards creating some strange/unique
            feeling of awe in me (and sadly seems to fail
            in that)
            I'll offer you an alternative approach..
            We will stop our conversation at this pint and
            if you come to think you might have been doing
            something fundamentally wrong here contact me
            again and I'll be happy to talk about what I
            came here to talk in the first place.

Arnaud 1/29/200 6:29 PM thank you so much
            I'll do that
So- what do you say people?

Last edited by Pidgin; 02-08-2003 at 04:18 PM.
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