Differences of opinion are great. But you cannot say i'm wrong on this point:
"100% wrong. A search engine sees exactly what you see when you view the source of your page. There's no way for a spider to see the "uploaded" version of the page. A search engine's spider makes the same type of HTTP request as a browser, so it sees exactly the same thing. "
You misunderstand. A search engine see's what you see when you view source on a page when you are looking at it from the server and not from the web.
"I don't think your problem is includes. "
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http://SmutDrs.com - every peice of code on that site is from an include, there is 0 static content on the page, including the head and foot tags. I know it is includes and cfm plugins, I have seen the source. In order to optimize the head tags they had to optimize the content in the included file, so although you can see it from the web, when you look at the page on the server, all you see it the include tags, and NOT the actual head code content. The reason why they are the same on every page is because ITS PULLING FROM THE SAME INCLUDE HEADER FILE! If it seems stuffed it's because they tried to manually intergrate the metas on top of the includes. The only pages they can get this site to rank are doorways and non-dymanic pages. Cold Fusion has alot more problems than PHP and ASP, for sure!
I did not suggest to abuse hidden code, but to rather integrate indexable content relevant to your site as best into your indexable code as possible. Ideally you do not want to use includes to manage and supply textual content.
My testing over the past 3 months has shown that SE's are still unable to spider includes as content for the source page they are indexing for ranking.
Includes can be useful when use for grahical content, this lightens the source code so your actual text content stands out which can help your rankings.. - however with SmutDrs.com there is NO static text or HTML on the site whatsoever, no matter how it appears when viewed from the web. Many sites use both, just optmize the html static content around your includes and you should do great!
Appreciate your imput NetRodent, however I have been doing full time SEO for the past 5 years and have worked with all kinds of sites, designs, and programming languages. I would not mislead someone or suggest something that I did not learn from experience.
A difference of opinion is always welcome
Best wishes,
Cyndalie
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