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Old 04-18-2007, 02:02 PM   #1
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just thought i d share that link, http://news.aol.com/virginia-tech-sh...17135909990001

They should do a complete ban on guns, 32 000 people die a year cause of that ...
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:03 PM   #2
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just thought i d share that link, http://news.aol.com/virginia-tech-sh...17135909990001

They should do a complete ban on guns, 32 000 people die a year cause of that ...

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/gen99845.htm

41,611 people killed in auto accidents per year roughly - lets ban cars
20,000 people die from the flu - lets ban social activities


okay, look - I am not a gun owner - but blaming guns or bush etc. is not going to stop violence or slow it down. as said, if someone wants to kill 33 people they will find a way to do it without a gun. building a bomb is actually easier to make, just find me an air condition with freon in it and I will make a nerve gas bomb that will kill more than 33.

the problem was with this guy, not that he had access to a gun.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:16 AM   #3
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http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/gen99845.htm

41,611 people killed in auto accidents per year roughly - lets ban cars
20,000 people die from the flu - lets ban social activities


okay, look - I am not a gun owner - but blaming guns or bush etc. is not going to stop violence or slow it down. as said, if someone wants to kill 33 people they will find a way to do it without a gun. building a bomb is actually easier to make, just find me an air condition with freon in it and I will make a nerve gas bomb that will kill more than 33.

the problem was with this guy, not that he had access to a gun.
I think most people know that I am anti-firearm. I generally don't think that ordinary citizens should own them without exceptional reasons. I DO NOT agree with the 2nd Amendment "the right of the people to keep and bear arms."

What this has done over the evolution of the United States is create a "gun society" where "the people" feel it is their right and sometimes they actually think it is their duty to own and carry a firearm. This is social conditioning that I do not buy into. Since I am not American, I don't have to buy into it and I can look at the situation from the outside.

Humorous as it may be, this little video holds a lot of truth.



So where BLAME is concerned, the blame goes to the social conditioning of a nation of people whose 2nd Amendment says they should carry weapons to protect them from anything that frightens them.
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I think most people know that I am anti-firearm. I generally don't think that ordinary citizens should own them without exceptional reasons. I DO NOT agree with the 2nd Amendment "the right of the people to keep and bear arms."

What this has done over the evolution of the United States is create a "gun society" where "the people" feel it is their right and sometimes they actually think it is their duty to own and carry a firearm. This is social conditioning that I do not buy into. Since I am not American, I don't have to buy into it and I can look at the situation from the outside.

So where BLAME is concerned, the blame goes to the social conditioning of a nation of people whose 2nd Amendment says they should carry weapons to protect them from anything that frightens them.

I am a peaceful man myself - I guess what upsets me is that people are quick to point fingers at a hot topic such as gun control, when if you look at this kids recent life and statements - if it wasn't guns, he was hell bent on using something to kill people.

Just look at him - can you honestly say that if he didn't have access to guns that he would say to himself, "well maybe I won't kill these people". I am not a gun owner, nor ever care to be - but this guy was whacked out of his mind. Whether it was a gun or kitchen fork, he would have done it anyways - all I am saying is let's not jump so fast to the conclusion of banning guns unless your ready to ban everything that people can use to kill others.
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I am a peaceful man myself - I guess what upsets me is that people are quick to point fingers at a hot topic such as gun control, when if you look at this kids recent life and statements - if it wasn't guns, he was hell bent on using something to kill people.

Just look at him - can you honestly say that if he didn't have access to guns that he would say to himself, "well maybe I won't kill these people". I am not a gun owner, nor ever care to be - but this guy was whacked out of his mind. Whether it was a gun or kitchen fork, he would have done it anyways - all I am saying is let's not jump so fast to the conclusion of banning guns unless your ready to ban everything that people can use to kill others.
Robert.... someone whacked out of their mind and angry at the world living in a country that loves firearms and has a government that supports the gun lobby.... is not a good situation.
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Robert.... someone whacked out of their mind and angry at the world living in a country that loves firearms and has a government that supports the gun lobby.... is not a good situation.
couldn't agree with you more my dear friend - but I am only asking, do you think removing guns from a country will stop nuts like this from wanting to kill someone?
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couldn't agree with you more my dear friend - but I am only asking, do you think removing guns from a country will stop nuts like this from wanting to kill someone?

It may not stop them, but it sure does limit the incidents. Don't get me wrong it's not like nothing ever happens here in Canada, but with less access to gun it does make it difficult. If you look at the stats guns have a big part in deaths in the USA.
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